GRADUAL INTERVIEW (April 2006)
Russell Smith: Thank you for your wonderful stories and characters, and thank you for the gradual interview. There are many, many hours of entertainment in them both.
This is more an observation than a question. I am surprised at the apparent distance between the writer and the publisher, from your accounts in this gradual interview. As a person firmly on the reading end of the process, I have always imagined the writer being closely involved right through the publishing phases. There seem to be a lot of cases where you are acknowledging your reader for passing of information concerning publication of your material. Maybe this is limited to the ancillary publications - audio books etc ?
Are you involved in the process of brining a book to publication (artwork, format), and has you involvement changed as you have become more widely published ?
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Typically, the author's involvement in the process of publication (and here I'm talking exclusively about the process of publication, not, say, about the process of book promotion) begins and ends with the text. Everything that pertains to the actual words is the author's department: the author does not have a say in ANYthing else. (For example, I *begged* Putnams to use a larger or more readable font for "The Runes of the Earth," but I was--politely--ignored.) And since publishers have so many departments, and those departments feel so little need to communicate with each other (never mind the author), "distance" is exacerbated in every direction.
It's all about "turf," really. In an (extremely) insecure business like publishing, protecting your turf is probably more important than any other aspect of your job. I could bore myself by giving you lots of examples; but why bother?
Among authors, only the mega-heavyweights (Stephen King leaps to mind) have enough clout to intrude successfully on the publisher's turf. The rest of us have to accept what we get.
As I've said before, in theory I don't object at all. In fact, I *like* this system--in theory. *I* don't want to spend my days choosing fonts. In practice, I'm often unhappy with the results. But in practice, my publishers are no doubt often unhappy with *my* results; so that's fair.
(04/01/2006) |
James Peck: I'm cheating, this is both a question and a coment. I remember when Lord Foul's Bane first came out... I was 13, and totally blown away by it. And since then I've read pretty much everything you've written. I was hugely impressed with the 1st chronicles, but not so much with the second. Honestly, I thought you were a bit too long winded and that it dragged really badly near the end. However, then you wrote Mordant's Need and I really really loved it... it was much faster paced and a damn good story. So now I've read The Bane of the Earth, and although it took a little while to get going, I think it may be the best book you've ever written.
So my question is this, in terms of the pace of the next books in the series, will they be more like Mordant's Need, or more like the 2nd Chronicles? Also, in the next books, is there any chance of Linden meeting up with the spirits of Lena or Elena? I think that would prove a fascinating encounter.
Thank you for all you've done; Jim Peck Tampa, Florida
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Sorry, I can't answer either of your questions. Since I don't share your perception of "pace," I can't predict how you will react to the pacing of, say, "Fatal Revenant". (Remember that I spend 2+ years working on a book that you can probably read in a couple of weeks. Under the circumstances, it simply isn't possible for me to share your perception of pace.) And I can't comment on up-coming events--or non-events--in "The Last Chronicles" without diminishing the enjoyment of other readers.
(04/01/2006) |
Jon: Hi Stephen, I do martial arts and spar and grapple regularly. Becuase of this I think I have a good understanding of the realities of the application of violence (to a degree.) Do you feel that your experience in Karate and experience in sparring, in being hit and hitting someone back, has given you any more insight into acts of physical violence. I find the Haurachi fighting in Runes to be more realistic in some ways than in the previous books.
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It's inevitable, I think, that my study of the martial arts has affected my "understanding" (if that's the right word) of physical violence on every level, from the practical to the metaphorical to the spiritual. And I certainly agree that the way the Haruchai fight is described more realistically in "The Runes of the Earth" than it is in any of the previous "Chronicles."
If you're interested in observing my, well, "development" on this subject over the course of my writing life, you might enjoy the Axbrewder/Fistoulari novels. Read in order, they reveal rather overtly how my perception of physical violence is changing.
(04/01/2006) |
Brian: I love your books. When they were first being released I was too young to appreciate the difference between hard copies and paper backs. Is there any chance that your books will be re-released in hard copy again?
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As far as I know, the only source for any of my earlier books in hardcover is the Science Fiction Book Club: there you can get "omnibus" editions of the first two "Covenant" trilogies. Other plans to re-release earlier books in hardcover have fallen by the wayside. The unpleasant truth is that I just don't sell well enough to justify the expense.
(04/01/2006) |
Steve: I just read Runes of the Earth and I want you to know how disappointed I am that you used profanity in your writings. You have always been one of my favorite authors, and I always recommended you to other people. I even had a hope in my heart that my children could one day enjoy your books as I have. After 20 years of waiting, imagine my shock to see the curse words you used. I mean, Linden Avery cursing? You are better than this. One question: Why? Please help me to regain respect for you and your work, at least so that I can enjoy this series somewhat. By the way, I whited out all the profanity so that this book could be in "proper" Covenant form.
Sincerely, Disappointed fan
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I shouldn't touch this. It's a lose/lose proposition. I won't be able to persuade you; and I may well increase your sense of disappointment. But I'm going to plunge in anyway ("Fools rush" etc.) because the subject interests me--and because you aren't alone in your reaction.
First, I think we need to make an important distinction. The "Covenant" books have always contained *profanity* ("Hellfire and bloody damnation": need I say more?). The real difference between the first six books and "The Runes of the Earth" (primarily the Prologue) is *obscenity*, which I will loosely define as "crude and hurtful references to bodily functions, organs, and actions." For example, the "F" word in various permutations.
In the abstract, it seems to me that profanity is inherently more violent, vehement, and hurtful than obscenity. Consigning someone else to "the eternal fires of hell" (e.g. "Damn you") is (conceptually) *worse* than accusing someone else of unnatural physical acts.
In practice, however, virtually everyone (myself included) reacts more strongly to obscenity than to profanity.
I think this is true because obscenity is more, well, *real* than profanity. Most of us simply cannot wrap our minds around "the eternal fires of hell," but we all have way too much (intimate) experience with bodily violence, bodily crudeness, and even bodily perversion. As an idea, profanity may be "worse" than obscenity, but as a tangible experience obscenity is unquestionably "worse".
Of course, none of the above pertains directly to your disappointment. The "distinction" doesn't matter to you: only the "fact" matters to you. And the "fact" is that "The Runes of the Earth" contains more "offensive" language (primarily in the Prologue) than the previous six "Covenant" books combined.
So why did I do it? I have two reasons, one general, one specific.
In general, and as a matter of personal conviction, I do not believe that *any* word is inherently good or bad, benign or hurtful, acceptable or offensive. Words are simply the tools of communication; and as a dedicated storyteller with extremely high aspirations, I can not afford to reject--or even judge--*any* of the tools available to me. As far as I can tell, what makes a word good or bad, benign or hurtful, acceptable or offensive, is the *intent* of the person who uses it.
Which brings me to the specific. I consider it important to distinguish between *my* intent and the intent of the character I'm writing about. Barton Lytton is a useful example. *My* intent is to tell the truth about him, using every tool at my disposal: to do anything less would betray my own aspirations. *His* intent is to express his anger, humiliation, and feelings of intimidation toward Linden: he wants to regain some sense of personal authority, and even of personal worth, by attacking the person who has most strenuously criticized him. And how else can he *do* that? He's the sheriff: he can't exactly beat her up. He can't expose her as a professional sham, or prove that she obstructed a criminal investigation, or find personal skeletons in her closet. How else could he possibly strike back, except through language? He uses obscenity (and profanity) because he *wants* to hurt her. His language is offensive, not because the words themselves are offensive, but because he *intends* to offend.
And that's the truth: some people *do* want to hurt others, and they don't care how they do it.
(It's also an observable fact that people who use profanity and obscenity tend to elicit profanity and obscenity from others. Intense emotion or action elicits intense emotion or action *of the same kind* in response.)
So I ask you: what would the effect be if I "cleaned up" Barton Lytton; if I made him less offensive in his conduct, therefore more comfortable to read about? Wouldn't that constitute *lying*? Wouldn't that imply that human evil isn't *really* as bad as we all know it is? Certainly circumlocution can convey the same information as direct utterance, but it doesn't have the same impact. And if the "Covenant" books contain any message at all, surely that message is that the desire to cause pain *does* have impact.
(04/02/2006) |
Pier Giorgio (Xar): Hello Steve! How are you? We're currently having an interesting discussion on the Watch, in which it was postulated that the similarities between the Demondim and the Ravers - i.e. both sorts of creatures are essentially disembodied entities capable of possessing physical bodies, both sorts of creatures have a burning touch (although through different means), and both sorts of creatures appear to have a communal sense of identity in addition to an individual identity (at least in the case of the Ravers) - suggest a relationship between the two kinds of creatures.
It has been further postulated that: either the Ravers are twisted Demondim (perhaps changed by the Illearth Stone) or that the Demondim were "designed" by the Viles based upon a "study" of the Ravers. The former theory has at least a timeline issue, whereas the latter apparently has none; it is also intriguing to notice that while the Ravers possess living bodies (therefore needing strength to subdue the original spirit within the body, but not to animate the body), the Demondim possess dead bodies (therefore needing strength to animate, whether mystically or physically, the dead body, but not to deal with any "soul").
So, the question is, are we on to something? Or is it just withdrawal symptoms while we hunger for Fatal Revenant? *grins*
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I hate to commit myself on subjects like this. But your speculations sure sound like "withdrawal symptoms" to me. <grin> Surely the "Covenant" books indicate SOMEwhere that the Ravers and the Demondim have separate etiologies. Not to mention distinct histories.
(04/05/2006) |
Alistair: Dear Stephen, I posted a question here some days ago, but I feel I should have qualified the question and will now do so if you don't mind.
The question was what inspired you to write and what drives you to continue to write. What should have asked was: Were you attending Kent State University at the time of the anti-war riots and did that have an influence on your perceptions of people and did it impact upon your writing
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Yes, I was attending Kent State at the time of the infamous shootings. I wasn't on campus: I was working in Akron City Hospital while attending grad school at Kent in the evenings. But since I lived in Kent, I experienced more of the direct aftermath than 99% of the students (who were evacuated within hours). I could go on at some length about the various horrors of that time; but I'd like to spare myself those memories. I'll just mention that on a number of occasions people who were willing to pull the trigger pointed guns at me. Cops, security guards, neighbors.
The effects were profound, but their impact on my writing (as I keep saying) was/is unconscious rather than conscious. They helped shape who I am as a person and how I view the world (people, situations, etc.). But I don't think about them while I'm writing--and I certainly don't set out to write *about* them.
(04/05/2006) |
Sean Casey: Berek Halfhand, Thomas Covenant, Roland Deschain, Rand al'Thor, Jaime Lannister, Luke Skywalker, Frodo Baggins, Heboric Ghost Hands, Ginny Fistoulari.
All fantasy characters who have lost all or part of a hand or two (OK, Ginny's not a fantasy character, but she sprang from the brain of a fantasy writer). What does the loss of such a useful appendage symbolise and why do you think so many writers have incorporated it into their stories?
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I don't mean to sound dismissive; but this seems perfectly obvious to me. Our hands are what we use to *do* things. (Jacob Bronowski [sp?], if memory serves, wrote eloquently about the intimate relationship between the use of our hands and the development of our minds.) Damaged hands symbolize (at the very least) damaged function. Damaged coping skills. An inability--you should pardon the expression--to really get a grip. Which is pretty apt, if you ask me.
(04/05/2006) |
Tim: Hi Stephen,
Just a quick question: a Yahoo search for your name turned up a website for "Stop Prisoner Rape". I was just wondering if this is/was yours, or is it being led by another Stephen Donaldson?
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Believe it or not, there is--or was--another "Stephen Donaldson," a prison reform activist who wrote and campaigned extensively. I've heard (VERY indirectly) that in his case "Stephen Donaldson" was a pseudonym; and that he died several years ago, a consequence of his personal experience with "prisoner rape". (I really must emphasize that this is hearsay, and may be entirely unfounded.)
Because of the similarity of names, people (I won't say who) have occasionally announced *my* death. As far as I know, that particular rumor is false.
(04/05/2006) |
Turin: When the Haruchai communicate mentally, it's apparently supposed to be some form of telephathy that goes beyond mere verbiage. How far does "the true speech of the Haruchai" go? ...Pictures? Feelings? Sound effects?
Since Lord Foul's attacks against the Land are virtually always ecological and since in The Runes of the Earth you had one of your protagonists defend that which is "liberal", Can we now admit the politics in this series...?
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I think of Haruchai communication as a kind of "gestalt" telepathy which conveys entire thought processes and personal experiences intact. Words are doubtless part of the whole, as are images, insights, and sensations. But I don't want to carry this idea too far: I don't mean to suggest that the Haruchai effectively share *one* mind--or that they all think alike. There's clearly a voluntary (and idiosyncratic) component in their mental "speech".
Gee, did I use the word "liberal" in "The Runes of the Earth"? (And, speaking politically or ecologically, what does that word even *mean*?) I hope I haven't asserted that the "Covenant" books cannot be interpreted politically or ecologically. But I do insist that I didn't write them to promote my personal political or ecological--or even religious--convictions. What you find in my books is as much a function of *your* mind as it is of *mine*.
(04/05/2006) |
Grant Lovett: All the Covenant books have a summary at the front of 'what has gone before' but this is absent in Mordants Need and more importantly The Gap books, where there was quite a wait between books..Was this for artistic, stylistic, practical or some other purpose ?
And I reiterate many of my fellow fans in thanking you for all the time you must spend on this forum.
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"What Has Gone Before" exists in the "Covenant" books because Lester del Rey commanded it. He considered some form of synopsis essential to the success of multi-volume fantasy (ref. LOTR). And while he was my editor (through "The Wounded Land"), he wrote the WHGB material himself. After that, my new editor continued the practice. And since WHGB has become part of the Covenant "template"--and because so many years have passed since "White Gold Wielder"--I did the job myself for "Runes".
But I *hate* doing that kind of writing (reducing long years of work to a barely-articulate mumble), so I don't do it whenever I can avoid it. My editors for "Mordant's Need" and the GAP books saw no need for synopses, and I *gratefully* accepted their judgment.
(04/05/2006) |
john keenan 2: can your publishers please let me know where I can purchase a complete hardcopy set of the Gap Series. Beats Thomas hands down and would love to get hold of a few sets for presents. thanks john western australia
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My publishers will be of no help to you. They "remaindered" their editions long ago: as far as they are concerned, those books no longer exist.
A helpful visitor to this site suggests: www.abebooks.com Apparently abebooks.com specializes in locating second-hand books in any format or condition you desire. I haven't tried it, but it might work.
(04/05/2006) |
Jason D. Wittman: Dear Mr. Donaldson,
I just read the post in this GI about who would win a Gandalf vs. Covenant battle. In your reply, you made an interesting point that Gandalf does not "save the world" so much as motivate certain people and set plans in motion so that the world is saved by the hobbits, whereas Covenant takes a more direct hand in matters. I think an equally interesting comparison would be Sauron vs. Lord Foul. Aside from Foul being the more operatic of the two villains--he only makes a few appearances throughout the Chronicles, but they are big appearances, while Sauron is never seen, only talked about (one of the few things about LOTR that I find disappointing)--the biggest difference is their motivations. Sauron strives for conquest, while Lord Foul strives for destruction. Is that inaccurate?
One more thing: you have said that Lord Foul (or at least your perception of him) has changed over the years. He is no longer the incarnation of Ee-vil that we met in LFB. So is he still the Lord Foul who "laughs at lepers", as Covenant says of him in The Wounded Land? Just curious.
Hope this finds you well.
Jason
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Your Sauron/LF analysis seems accurate to me. I'm no expert on Sauron; but LF can't get what he wants without the destruction of "reality as we know it".
Regardless of whatever I may or may not have said about LF as "the incarnation of Ee-vil" (the memory is the first thing to go--by which I mean that once it goes you no longer remember losing anything else <sigh>), he's still a contemptuous SOB. Finite beings are just so *puny*.... If he didn't laugh at lepers, he'd probably have to kill himself--except no, he can't do that because he's immortal.
(btw, "immortal" for LF and "immortal" for the Elohim are two entirely different concepts. The Elohim are immortal *within the Arch of Time*. If time no longer exists, they won't either. LF doesn't have that problem.)
(04/12/2006) |
Thomas Griffin: This GI has many thought-provoking questions, and I'm sure that there are some that were simply too inane or weird to be posted. Care to share some of the more bizarre questions that you have received, if any?
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I've received some questions that seemed bizarre to me. But very few of them were intended that way. So why would I want to risk embarrassing well-meaning people who happen to think (very) differently than I do?
(04/13/2006) |
john p. ostrander jr: i have just finished "runes of the earth" and you have outdone yourself once again! i never thought you would write "the last chronicles" but am so glad you are! you have left me groveling for "revenant" so please hurry but don't skimp! my 2 questions: " what has allowed lord foul to gain strength to endanger the land once again and what will be the titles of the last 3 books of the last chronicles?" thank you!
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The Despiser is an immortal being. He's always going to find his way back to strength in one form or another. That form may vary according to the circumstances in which he finds himself. But since he can't be killed, he's bound to return.
(And it's always theoretically possible that his servants work to restore him--or that he draws new energy from other evils, like the lurker of the Sarangrave, or from banes still hidden deep in the Earth.)
The next book in "The Last Chronicles" will be "Fatal Revenant." (Information is posted under "news" on this site.) After that comes "Should Pass Utterly" and "The Last Dark."
(04/13/2006) |
Karen: Hi there Mr Donaldson
Just a quick question about the Chronicles. Sorry if this is another subject which you have already been over.
As the series progresses we find out more about the history of the Land and what happened to Kevin when he enacted the Ritual of Desecration.
My question is, How do we know what happened? Surely anyone who witnessed his meeting with Lord Foul would have been killed in the Ritual, yet we hear that Kevin realised at the last his mistake and 'died howling'. Is there actually an explanation for how we know all this (perhaps we don't and it is all assumption on the part of the other characters), or is it one of those things that we have to just skim over and accept as part of the story?
Looking forward to Fatal Revenant immensely!
Thanks for your time
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Legends are like that. They're full of details which are difficult to trace. But I see no reason to assume that LF himself didn't tell the story. He might have a lot to gain by portraying Kevin that way. And he would *love* to spread the tale.
How would LF tell the story? The easiest way would be through the Ravers; through people possessed by the Ravers; through people listening to people possessed by the Ravers.
(04/13/2006) |
phil friedman: Dear Steve: As many GI-others have written, many deep thanks for the GI. I only hope that you gain as much as we, who are already way ahead from reading your books. Even in hardbook at full retail, the cost of a good book (or album) pales against its many rewards. (And that goes for "Mick" and Ginny too; without being silly, you cannot write too much for this reader).
Upon considering both your prior article and GI-answer, I agree both that "motivation" and "means" are the central issues concerning evil, and that what may appear external (LF, Sauron, etc.) is at least partly a reflection of our internal struggle with darker impulses.
My problem remains twofold. First, the personified evil, when we confront it during the story, usually threatens something akin to extinction, utter [unmitigated?] slavery, way more than a bad hair day. Granted, bad hair days don't make for terribly interesting books, but neither are our normal struggles typically life-threatening.
Second, referring to Marx, the process of personifying evil can lose evil's social dimensions (paraphrasing Marx, "We may make our own worlds, but not exactly as we might hope" [given that our visions of the new are tied to our experiences of the old, whether we know it or not].) In other words, there are few real people whose motivations, like LF's, threaten existence (although [V?]Pres. Cheney seems to be trying his best). And such motivations have a social (and not just individual) context that shaped and maybe ignored them, which is why they may have reached a cataclysmic state. (All of which are substantially addressed and explored in GAP.) I guess what I'm saying is that fantasy (maybe all fiction, even nonfiction) in general can lose the "nurture" side of the balance, particularly when it comes to presenting evil, even when the focus of the story is an individual's struggle. That's why I'm so interested in the fantasy world itself--how it works, how its people subsist, how they govern themselves. And most important, how their problems arose and who's doing what about them, pro and con. Obviously this issue is even more complex given TC's other-wordly citizenship, though it seems that many of the purported values in the different worlds are similar.
As I write, I think maybe something to consider is (how's that for a passive weak construction to try to avoid being tarred as presumptuous) some added attention (which doesn't mean much) to the development of the Land's crisis during the long interim between TC's or LA's last visit, and why the Land's folks failed to fix it--in other words, what Anele and the SoL really symbolize besides one person and a nice stick. As Marx also discussed, there may be so-called great people, but neither they nor those they seek to vanquish come from nowhere. Leaving this one behind, I guess where I come down is that evil or anything that can truly threaten reasonable existence (apart from the random, such as a wayward asteroid) has a history which stems from that same existence, and almost no one, for better or worse, is irreplaceable.
Finally, and continuing to speak of evil, in this era of U.S.international warmongering and torture, including Pentagon-planted stories in Iraq and domestic spying and legal attacks on whistleblowers at home, two suggested nonfiction reads: for us almost oldtimers, Bertram Gross' 1980 "Friendly Fascism" remains eerily prescient and relevant, and; Univ. CO Prof. Fred Anderson's 2005 "Dominion of War...North American Empire from 1500 to 2000." Anderson's book, organized around a series of biographical sketches (Samuel de Champlain, George Washington, Andrew Jackson, U.S. Grant through Colin Powell), argues that empire was inherent in America's birth and, like now, can have drastically bad consequences (such as the American-Mexican War leading to the Civil War). It's eminently readable, and a great refresher course on both U.S. history and the relationship between leaders (or at least important people) and their societies. As always, peace and prosperity.
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I'm posting this, not because it asks a question (it doesn't), and not because I have anything new to say on the subject (I don't: as I've said before, epic fantasy--as I write it--is intended to reflect an "internal" rather than an "external" reality, and such things as Personified Evil are intended as *aspects* of that internal reality rather than as direct depictions of (over)simplified evil), but because issues are raised here which deserve attention. There are times when I'm both gratified and humbled by how thoughtful (I mean full of thought) my readers can be.
(04/16/2006) |
J.A. Frank: Will it be possible to obtain all SRD publications in e-book format some day? The Runes of Earth was the first e-book I bothered to read on my Treo650 and was amazed that I actually read in under two weeks! Since waiting around for the next in the series is... not pleasant, I would like to tote around the rest of his works in ebook format to revisit the other six books until the next in the series is completed. I have hardbacks of most of SRD's works, and I have found it increasingly difficult to read a book for pleasure due to their size, availability. I passed on the complete paperback collection to other interested readers (who are now hooked) so I do not have another portable version lying around. If you send this stuff to SRD, "... hey, man! E-books work - suprisingly well."
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I suspect that the transmission of books in various forms through electronic media is the wave of the future. But at present, there simply isn't enough money in e-books for publishers to invest much time and effort in them. And my books, in particularly, don't sell well enough to inspire extra time and effort from my publishers.
In addition, most people who are comfortable in the world of the Internet, e-mail, iPods, and PDAs don't realize that they are still a rather small segment of the general population. The last figures I saw indicated that only 10% of US homes have computers. The larger population isn't *ready* for e-books.
And just to give you a bit of context: when "The Runes of the Earth" was high on ereader.com's bestseller list, it had sold somewhere between 20 and 25 copies. From a book publisher's perspective, that's chump change.
So in the foreseeable future, no publisher is going to expend the time and effort to make my "back list" available in e-formats. (You may be interested to know, however, the DEL REY/Ballantine *does* want to release e-books for the first six "Chronicles". But DR/B doesn't own those rights: I do. And DR/B is unwilling to *pay* me for those rights. Well, as a career move, it's suicidal for an author to give away his/her work for free. I don't have the time, expertise, or money to become an e-publisher myself. And if I did, DR/B might sue me under the "competing publication" clause of my contract.) And that won't change unless I somehow become one or two orders of magnitude more successful than I am now.
(04/16/2006) |
Sean Casey: Woohoo! It's 1 February, so I finally get to ask a couple more questions.
Something I've been thinking about asking for a while now is your response to criticism. Some of your answers have given me the impression that, for want of a better description, you're dismissive of negative feedback. You've explained this in respect of reviews, saying that they are aimed at readers and are therefore not really relevant to you as a writer.
I suppose that any criticism that comes after the publication of a piece of work is irrelevant, because once it's out there, there's not much you can do about it. However, any valid criticism surely has an impact on the way you would approach a future work.
I also realise that much of the criticism you get probably tends to repeat itself ad nauseam: problematic protagonists, verbosity, repeating yourself ad nauseam... You've made decisions about your style that clearly aren't going to be reversed.
To focus on a specific (and, thinking about it, this whole question is probably just an excuse to mention this - and yes, I know you've dealt with it before): in The Man Who Bought a Phone - sorry, The Man Who Fought Alone, the bad guy kicked the arse of another character and said something incriminating - highly suspicious at the very least. Which Brew, who was watching this, completely ignored. I spent the rest of the novel wondering when he was going to follow up this blindingly obvious lead. As you can imagine, this really spoiled the book for me.
Saying this as diplomatically as I can, that seemed to me to be an authorial misjudgment.
OK - got that off my chest.
So (at last, a question) what is your attitude towards criticism? Not continuity or typographic errors, not things that are inherent to you as writer - your language and characters - but the issues of judgment like the example above. And when in the writing process do you seek criticism and who from?
Thanks.
PS: There's less to criticise in the whole Donaldson oeuvre than in some single novels I've read.
I read The Da Vinci Code recently.
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Subjects like this tend to rile me. I'll try to stay calm.
1) You're right: once a book is published, criticism (valid or otherwise) doesn't do any good. During my writing and rewriting process, I seek out the most intensive feedback I can find, especially negative feedback. Mostly from my editors, my agent, and my friends. Then I'm done.
2) I didn't create the GI so that readers could review my work, positively or negatively. I took on this task to answer questions. Criticism (valid or otherwise) is out of place here.
3) There *is* no such thing as "valid" or "constructive" criticism--unless the person on the receiving end asks for it. If the recipient doesn't *ask*, he/she isn't, well, receptive; and the criticism is wasted. So it follows that what people choose to call "valid" or "constructive" criticism exists for the benefit of the critic, not for the good of the person being criticized. It serves the ego of the critic.
4) In my experience, so-called "valid criticism" is seldom based on an accurate reading of the text. Your critique of "The Man Who Fought Alone" is a good example. The text makes clear that Sternway and Hardshorn are acquainted with each other. Well, speaking as a man who has been beaten up people I know, I can assure you that there is nothing inherently "incriminating" about Hardshorn's protest. I've said similar things myself for the most obvious of reasons: I don't like getting beaten up, and I wasn't expecting it. In addition, Brew does *not* ignore Hardshorn's protest. In fact, he repeats it to himself several times. But he isn't in a very coherent frame of mind (again I speak from personal experience). In his condition, he finds it difficult to distinguish between "natural" protests and "incriminating" objections. If you still find his reaction--or lack of reaction--implausible, I can only surmise that you haven't been hit in the head as often as I have.
So yes, it's probably fair to say that I'm "dismissive of negative feedback"--in this forum. It doesn't do me any good, it distorts the purposes of the GI, I didn't ask for it, and it tends to be debatable.
But does any of this mean that I consider my work to be "above" criticism? Of course not. I'm at least as fallible as any other human being. And I'm more dedicated than most to learning from my mistakes. My only point is that I have reasons for being "dismissive of negative feedback" when I didn't ask for it.
(04/19/2006) |
Tony Powell: I am fascinated by your writing approach. While I entirely understand your pragmatic back-to-front method, when I try to do the same, I find that the planning somehow drains the excitement of writing right out of me, as if the rest is a paint-by-numbers exercise.
(This is curiously similar to what happens when I make the mistake of telling someone about my stories before I write them. The magic evaporates, and invariably I can't continue.)
How do you plan your books so completely and still maintain the energy/excitement necessary to write them?
I guess I'm asking this: you have said you write because you must. Must what?
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"Must what?" Must experience the story, of course.
Every writer is different. I know many; and I don't know anyone who works the way I do. However, I suspect that every writer needs to feel a sense of "discovery," of imaginative surprise, in one form or another. For me, that sense seems to come primarily from putting the story into words (truly telling it rather than merely summarizing or describing it). No doubt this is an effect of the fact that I see and feel most intensely through language. For other writers of my acquaintance, that sense of discovery or surprise seems to come from finding out what happens next. For others, the discovery is learning what kind of character would do what the story requires.
There is no right or wrong approach. There is only "what works" for each individual writer.
(04/19/2006) |
Allen: Two questions
1. What scienti-fictional works are ante-cedents to the Gap Cycle? I've joked that the Gap is Star Wars Goes To Hell but I was wondering what stories or shows affected your great work.
2. This is a nasty question (the kind we all want to ask but we know you will not answer) and I hope you forgive me for it, but: who are the writers and works of literature you hate the most. Nosey readers would also like to know WHY? (Alas!)
Thank you for your consideration,
Allen
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1) I suppose I would have to mention "Dune," "Star Trek," and E. E. Smith's "Lensman" series. Also Asimov's original "Foundation" books. Blish's "Cities in Flight". But those are unconscious influences. I wasn't *thinking* about any of them when I wrote the GAP books.
2) I'm not really going to answer this question. But I will say this: what infuriates me the most is when talented writers produce stupid books. Usually I attribute the problem to laziness (or some other form of self-indulgence) because I find it difficult to believe that true talent and true stupidity can both exist in the same mind.
(04/19/2006) |
Lou Sytsma: Hello again. Hope all is well.
Here's a question I hope you have not been asked yet. Are you familar with Joss Whedon at all? While I am not a devout follower of all his work, I do enjoy the dialogue he comes up with for his characters. His latest effort, the short-lived Firefly tv series and the concluding movie - Serenity, are prime examples of his writing ability. Something you may want to check out.
BTW - sneaking in some extra questions here - do you find dialogue easy to write? Do you read your writing out loud to see if it sounds right?
Thanks for your time.
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I'm a major "Buffy" fan. I enjoyed "Angel" and "Firefly" ("Serenity" not so much). Of course, Whedon didn't write *all* of those stories. But his dialogue (like his stories) often has serious power.
Dialogue does *not* come easily to me. In fact, no other single aspect of my books gets rewritten as extensively (and intensively) as the dialogue. And yet-- As I get older, I find dialogue more and more *exciting*. (Com'on. Who else d'ya know who would use an "argument" for the climax of a fantasy novel?) No doubt that's why there's more dialogue in "Runes" than in any other "Covenant" book.
(04/19/2006) |
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Fist & Faith: Would it be fair to say the Creator isn't particularly worried about Foul escaping his prison; rather, he doesn't want his creation destroyed in the process? I say this not just because he was powerful enough to imprison Foul in the first place, but also because he cannot enter the Arch of Time without destroying it - presumably because it couldn't contain his puissance (heh) - while it holds Foul quite easily.
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Certainly the "background assumptions" of the "Chronicles" seem to imply that at one time (before the Earth was created) LF occupied the same version of eternity that the Creator does. If the Creator was OK with *that*, we can probably infer that he (He?) doesn't really care about keeping LF prisoner: he cares about his creation. In fact, if he could do so without destroying Time, he might conceivably set LF free just to spare his creation more pain.
Two points. 1) Don't confuse "breaking in" with "breaking out". Those are two ENTIRELY different problems. They pertain to the nature of existence, eternal vs temporal--a distinction which I perceive to be vital, but which (sadly) surpasses my poor powers of explication.
2) It's worth asking, What's creation *for*? What was the Creator hoping to accomplish when he made the Earth?
(04/19/2006) |
phillip andrew bennett low: I don't have the book in front of me, but towards the beginning of "The Wounded Land," Dr. Berenford describes one of Covenant's novels, which argues something to the effect of "Guilt is power, because the use of power is guilt, therefore only guilty people can be effective."
Is this your position as well? Surely it's self-evident, both in the world of your novels and the world of our day-to-day life, that there are people who are capable of exercising power without experiencing appropriate guilt.
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I'm not sure I actually have a position on this. But I feel constrained to point out that the absence of a feeling of guilt does not necessarily imply an absence of guilt. Our world is rife with sociopaths, and none of them feel guilty. Does that make them innocent? Hardly. But it does allow them a certain, well, latitude in the exercise of power.
I'm a storyteller: I'm not in the business of passing judgment. But I've seen that "power corrupts." Surely that's not an accident.
(04/19/2006) |
Len Quici: Mr. Donaldson Firstly, let me "thank You" for the world you've created for myself and your legion of fans! Secondly, I've been wondering for some time if you've ever read The Hero With a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell and, if so, did it affect your molding of Thomas Covenant? If not, pick up a copy!!
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No, I haven't read Campbell's famous book. And I probably shouldn't. Anything that might make someone like me self-conscious tends to be damaging. ("Self-awareness" good: "self-consciousness" very bad. Although the distinction is hard to explain. Self-awareness involves being fully present in the task of the moment. Self-consciousness involves *watching* the task of the moment. People who feel self-conscious are almost always at their least creative.)
(04/23/2006) |
Ossie: Having always considered you a “fantasy” author – albeit my favourite by far – I did not feel a great urge to read your non-fantasy or sci-fi writings, namely the “Man Who” series: not because I didn’t think they would be good, more I guess because I thought I would always have Covenant/Mordent/Gap in the back of my mind while reading them. Recently however I decided to read them more out of respect for you as an author in general, and I have to say I really enjoyed them: not just enjoyed them, but enjoyed them a great deal more than I expected to. The almost ceremonial way in which Brew approaches an audience with Manolo is vaguely reminiscent of the “formal” tone of most fantasy, and I think you have created an entirely believable universe in which your characters reside. So again, thank you.
My question relates to the Ravers: unlike most “Ultimate Evil Enemy With Second-Most-Evil-Sidekick-Or-Sidekicks”, Foul & the Ravers did not come from the same “source”: Foul is the “supernatural” uber-baddie of the story in that he comes from outside the world of the Land, whereas the Ravers did not come with him pre-packaged as his supernatural underlings but, as far as I remember, were originally inhabitants of the Land. Apart from the fact that both are “evil”, & the Ravers have now achieved some measure of “supernatural” ability themselves, their goals do not seem all that common. Yet somehow the Ravers have become the first lieutenants of Foul. You have said before that you are an “efficient” writer in that you only create what you need to tell your story, without needing a great detailed history or backstory mapped out even in your own head, but to the extent that you have thought about it, how did the Ravers come to serve Foul as they do? Unless Foul holds something over them that I have missed, why did & do the Ravers continue to serve him as they do?
As a very minor 2nd question, have you ever considered that the “Man Who” series would lend itself to movie adaptation much better than perhaps the Covenant or Gap stories? Thankyou again in anticipation and I eagerly await the rest of the Last Chronicles.
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I'm glad you like "The Man Who" books. You're right: they would be much easier to make into movies than "Covenant". But then, almost everything I've written would be easier than "Covenant".... <sigh>
I think you're making too much of a meal out of why the Ravers serve LF. In the real world, as we all know, people who *hate* are perfectly willing to nuke anyone, even their natural allies. Change the skin tone, or the accent, or the pagination of the holy texts, and EVERYONE is an enemy. But "Covenant" is fiction; and in fiction--especially in fantasy--writers are allowed (even expected) to concentrate their themes in ways which aren't always literally realistic. Certainly in fantasy, like attracts like. Giants are drawn to Lords. Ravers are drawn to the Despiser.
And remember, LF's only *known* power is his ability to influence minds; to make other people and beings do his dirty work. Directing the energies of souls which are already full of hate (like the Ravers)? Piece of cake. Or perhaps I should say, Radial segment of baked confection. <grin>
(04/26/2006) |
John: Mr. Donaldson,
If Covenant *is* the white gold, and the ring is an instrument to access that power, are there other ways in which to access this power? Now that Covenant is dead he can be summoned or sent away as a spirit, as explained to Linden at the end of WGW. I suspect that Foul summoned Covenant and sent him to Linden at the end of ROTE. But Linden has the ring, which Covenant wanted her to have. I do not believe Foul has absolute control over the power of white gold, otherwise he would have used Covenant to destroy the Arch (If Covenant, though dead, has such power). The ability to summon or banish does not make Covenant a willing participant. But Linden *was* given the ring by Covenant of his own free will. What I am asking...I think...
(1)does Foul have access to the white gold through the revenant of Covenant; (never mind Joan and her ring now walking through the Land)
(2)does the ring give Linden potential control over dead Covenant?
Happy typing!
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With trepidation, I'm not filing this under "spoilers". A mistake, perhaps....
This whole conundrum would be much simpler if you accepted Mhoram's statement ("You are the white gold") as a metaphor. (He could have said of Linden in TROTE, "You are the Staff of Law".) In the kind of fantasy I write, power always comes from within (within the Earth, within Covenant, within the ur-viles, etc.). It may require an instrument of expression (white gold, a staff, Gildenlode, orcrest, whatever), but the instrument is primarily an enabling device: it isn't *really* the source of the power. And the source uses the instrument, not the other way around. Linden (or LF) can no more control Covenant through white gold than I can control you through my computer.
Putting it another way: wild magic is an expression or manifestation of who Covenant is: *he* is not an expression or manifestation of what wild magic is (he's so much more than that).
Sure, a certain kind of "power by proxy" is possible through *possession*. But such power is limited by the necesssity of freedom: possession violates the identity, the integrity, of the power-source, which weakens the power enormously.
(04/26/2006) |
Joshua Arnold: Mr. Donaldson,
Most would agree Chronicles is your most popular work. What, do you think, is the least popular and why?
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The sales figures are clear: my least popular books are the Axbrewder/Fistoulari novels. Even my short story collections sell better.
Why? I'm just guessing. But I suspect that there are two factors. 1) Mystery readers want longer series, and they want the books in the series to appear more often. As an extremely broad generalization, mystery series don't "take off" until there at least 5 books. And the (many) years between Axbrewder/Fistoulari novels tend to conceal the fact that a series even exists. 2) Mystery readers (and they are not alone in this) *like* the conventions of their preferred genre; but the Axbrewder/Fistoulari novels violate those conventions relentlessly.
(04/27/2006) |
Dan O'Brien: I have the hardover edition of the first book of the new Covenant series but decided not to read it until I re-read the rest of the Covenant books. I found all but White Gold Wielder, and this has not re-appeared anywhere that I can see. It seems a natural to re-release all the previous books to generate readers for the new series, so why can't I find new copies of Wielder? Help!
PS: I live in Japan, so online shopping resources would be nost welcome. But I don't want a used copy! If the publisher is not re-releasing the original books, get them to!
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Other readers of this site have had succcess with www.abebooks.com. Nothing I write sells well enough to justify hardcover reissues--except for things like omnibus editions from the Science Fiction Book Club. Paperbacks are another matter. WGW is readily available from Amazon.com.
(04/27/2006) |
DrGonzo: Hey! Nice work on finishing *revenant* in a shorter time than *runes*, hope you keep up the trend! I have two questions to ask, one concerning *the chronicles* and the other *the gap*. The first concerning *the chronicles* is more of an observation of the use of the phrase "the last dark" in WGW. I quote, "she had not mustered the bare decency to cry aloud as she strangled her mother, drove that poor sick woman terrified and alone into the last dark." is this a reference to the final book of the series? Or just a turn of phrase that you particularly liked? Probably not the deepest question ever, but there you go. The second question, concerning the gap is, the characters of Angus and morn and Davies appear to be viewable from psychoanalytical angle. Their experiences, and I maybe speaking prematurely here, as I have not finished the fifth book, are incredibly similar. Angus dominates morn. The UMCP dominate Angus. They both have experienced torture and are running from their past. Davies fits into this because of the genius stroke of force-growing and mind transfer. But of course once the process has finished he is his own person, but only to a degree, he is still his father’s son and the triangle is complete. Am I anywhere near the mark here? By the way, that is one messed up family you created there. well hope this is worthy of an answer. thanks for the great stories. DrGonzo
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Yes, the reference you noticed for "the last dark" is intentional.
It's actually sort of difficult to find a Donaldson character who can't be viewed from a "psychoanalytical angle". <sigh> Goes with the territory of being me, I suppose. Certainly all of my characters (the main ones, anyway) seem to be engaged in some sort of struggle for identity. And the classic identity triangle (victim-victimizer-rescuer) can be found almost everywhere you look. Davies is only one (overt) example. Angus and Morn also qualify.
(04/29/2006) |
John Blackburn: 1) What if Elena had used the Power of Command to order the destruction of Foul's Creche? That's what I would have done! foul would be unable to beseige Revelstone in TPTP.
2) Foul seems to be able to generate infinite armies which always give him the (unfair) advantage. I wonder what the logistics are, he must need stocks of food to breed Kresh etc, so where are his fields, farm animals, grain stores etc? If they are somewhere near the Creche, could the Giants sail down and set fire to them? It always seemed unfair that however brave and resourceful the goodies, they will always lose because of the overwhelming no of troops Foul can create (this is also an issue in LOTR).
In the 2nd Chrons, Foul presumably has no ability to create armies because the Creche was destroyed? But then he doesn't need to.
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1) Sure, Elena could have done as you suggest. If she were a completely different person. And if you don't mind the fact that the whole remainder of the first trilogy falls completely apart. And achieving nothing more than a comparatively minor and brief victory doesn't bother you (sure, LF loses his home, and presumably also the Illearth Stone, but *he's* just fine, thank you very much, and he'll be back--soon). "Disasters which enable victory" are a constant theme in the "Chronicles".
2) The bad guys in big fantasy novels always seem to have this power. Who supplies all those orcs and other allies in LOTR? And what could possibly *grow* in the ruined earth which surrounds Foul's Creche? No, I think we have to assume that LF's armies are the product of magic, not any form of "natural" reproduction or food supplies.
(04/29/2006) |
Steve: Stephen, Loved Runes and was wondering if you are planning to post any part of the next book here, and if your are? When that might take place?
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If/when my publishers give their approval, I probably will post an excerpt from "Fatal Revenant" here. But I can't begin to guess *when* that might happen. Aside from the crucial issue of "approval," there's the complex question of supplying an excerpt which a) doesn't give too much away, and b) won't be rewritten before publication.
(04/29/2006) |
Jeffrey Smith: Greetings,
In re-reading the 2nd TC trilogy, I realized that there was yet another word I didn't know. As usual, I looked it up. The last section of WGW is entitled "Apotheosis." Merriam-Webster says the word either means "elevation to divine status" or "the perfect example."
Which did you mean? Are we to take from the heading that the end of WGW is TC's ascension to godhood, perhaps becoming a member of the same power stratum as the Creator and Lord Foul? If not, what is TC the perfect example of in the last section of WGW?
Or, is there a definition of the word that Merriam-Webster didn't tell me about? ;)
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My dictionary agrees with yours; but there is also an implication of "culmination," of an epic process carried through to its final crisis/transformation. I think that Covenant's becoming a crucial part of the Arch of Time might qualify as "elevation to divine status". (OK, so he's not the Creator. But who is these days? <grin>) And the story certainly intends Covenant as "the perfect example" of a *redeemer*--or at least of an opponent for Despite.
(04/29/2006) |
Robert Evans: Stephen, at the beginning of The Wounded Land, Dr. Beresford and Linden are discussing Thomas Covenant's first novel and his subsequent less successful writing, and I have to wonder whether you had a premonition of the same happening in your own writing career: the earliest work completely overshadowing everything that came after? If this touches a sore spot, please accept my apologies.
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No, I didn't have any premonitions of that kind. None whatsoever. I never actually expected to get published at all. (However, since my premonitions--when I do get them--are pretty much always wrong, I would probably be better off if I *had* had a premonition about the state of my subsequent career. <grin>)
(04/29/2006) |
Phillip: Well, yesterday I had an aspiring, unpublished author tell me he wanted to mention me in the dedication page of his first book.
That got me thinking. You've written lots of books and mentioned lots of people in your dedications. Could you talk about that for a minute? How do you choose whom to dedicate a book to. Do you ask their permission ordinarily? Do you tell them about this ahead of time or leave it as a surprise?
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No, I've never asked anyone's permission to dedicate a book. (And I do try to keep it a surprise.) Dedications are my way of saying "thank you" to people who have been especially important in my life. Since the dedications are about *my* emotions, not those of the dedicatee, I feel I have the right to express my gratitude publicly. (Of course, it probably depends on what the gratitude is *for* <grin>.)
(04/29/2006) |
Marc Dalesandro: Hello Mr. Donaldson,
Hope you'll indulge me and answer another question.
I know Lord Foul tricked the Lords into allowing him on their council in the distant past, but did he actually go by the name "Lord Foul"? Or did he have an alias at the time?
It seems incongruous that these intelligent and wise leaders of the Land would fail to note that someone with a monicker like "Foul" might be a bit dodgy...
Thanks again for your wonderful books, Marc
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Surely you realize that I can't answer your question without sounding disingenuous at best, and at worst downright specious? I'm afraid you'll just have to assume that: a) I don't have an answer, and I don't care; b) I do have an answer, and I don't want to reveal it; or c) I don't have an answer, and I'm going to scramble madly until I come up with one. <grin> Take your pick.
(04/29/2006) |
Suzanne: I am currently re-reading the original two trilogies in preparation for reading "Runes"... because I want to savor every word. I originally read the series in the early 1980's and frankly my memory of the details was lacking. I appreciate the glossary in the back of each book, but could you possibly include a phonetic pronunciation? Or better yet... publish it on the website? I find myself struggling sometimes on the words rather than enjoying their meaning. Thank you so much for continuing the Covenant story.
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Hmm. Perplexing. Making a pronunciation guide available on this site is certainly do-able. And I can't imagine that my publishers would object. But think of the *work*! It's not like I don't already have plenty to do. And it's not like I actually care how people pronounce particular words (although I am bemused when readers correct *my* pronunciation).
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