GRADUAL INTERVIEW (February 2006)
Mathias Johnson:  Hi, Steven! Thanks for the wonderful worlds you've created, and for the fascinating characters inhabiting them!

I have a writer's question concerning both the physical items needed to create a world and in the names that are given to these objects: to what extent do you worry yourself about a name/object's origin and/or its link to this reality? In my own writing, I seem to quibble endlessly with myself about this sort of detail (not wanting a fantasy world to sound so foreign that it's jarring, but not wishing to simply throw in "squirrels" and "apples" and whatnot. How have you been able to strike such a great balance?
I wish I could explain it. Much of the "balance" to which you refer is a matter of "feel". And every writer has his/her sense of what fits and what doesn't. But in my case my definition of "efficiency" applies: I only create what I need. Since, for example, I want the Land to feel like an idealized version of our world rather than like an utterly alien place, I've invented only those objects (Gilden trees, aliantha), animals (kresh, Ranyhyn), beings (Giants, Elohim, Haruchai) and creatures (too numerous to cite) that I find absolutely necessary. I haven't bothered to devise my own small woodland animals or ordinary foods (or fabrics, or construction materials, or etc.) because I don't need them.

You might say that in the case of the "Chronicles" I'm operating on a continuum between the Land in its unthreatened state (where the difference between the Land and our world is primarily a matter of degree, not of kind) and the nightmares which crave the Land's destruction. The farther I move from "unthreatened" to "nightmares," the more I invent.

But you'll find a different balance in every writer worth reading. I'll just mention China Mieville, in whose work ordinary people provide the familiar element while the reality in which they live is the stuff of nightmare. The continuum along which Mieville moves is entirely unlike mine (although there are some interesting sub rosa similarities).

(02/01/2006)

Gerry Sewell:  I've read that the Thomas Covenant series was optioned for film - is that true and has a production date been set? Second, I agree with your assessment that film can never capture the internalized conflict the characters evidence in writing. However, given the blithe ignorance we display as we continue to destroy this earth, isn't it time to allow the beauty of the Land to disturb our psyche some? Best of luck regardless.
The idea of a "Covenant" film remains purely speculative (although I've been paid for an option), and I refuse to worry about it. *If* such a film is ever made, its worth will depend entirely on the integrity and imagination of its director, designers, screenwriter, and cast, not (in fact, emphatically NOT) on anything I've done--or can do.

(02/01/2006)

Daniel Björkman:  Dear Mr Donaldson...

Well, it's a new month, which means I get to ask two more questions - at least I hope that's how it works.

1) When I read the word "lore," my mind automatically translates it as lore = knowledge = science, which is to say, I tend to interpret magic in fantasy as simply a sort of alternative technology - say the right words, go through the right mental exersises, and sparkly stuff happens.

This confused me with the First Chronicles last time I read them, because no one ever seems to study magic, as such. They study things like legends and history, and somehow, magic slips in. So now I'm thinking, maybe I should alter my mental translation to lore = wisdom = philosophy?

For example, when a Lord sings an old song and stuff happens as a result, is it the song that does it - or is the song just a ritual that states the Lord's faith in the principles he serves, meaningless in itself and only irreplacable in the sense that it's old and heavy with tradition and therefore a more potent symbol than a newly written song would be?

If so, the Masters' suppression of the Land's history takes on a whole new level of horror...

2) Something that struck me with the Last Chronicles was the way Linden thinks about Covenant. It felt to me like she kind of idolised him - denied the very idea that he could ever do anything wrong. This, to me, is doing him a disservice, because I've always felt that what made him so heroic was that he did brave and noble things while most of the time wanting nothing as much as curling up in a ball and letting other people sort it out.

Okay, that's a bit too harsh a description, but you see what I mean, I hope. He's twice as heroic for overcoming his inner weakness in addition to the outer challanges - and I feel it sounds like Linden can't remember the fact that he had any inner weakness.

So my question is, has Linden idolised her memory of Covenant in the last ten years to the point where she recalls him as being almost superhuman? Or is she just focusing on the stuff she admired about him, while still being fully aware of his weaknesses?

Sincerely,

Daniel Björkman
1) I'm inclined to say that "lore = knowledge + training + comprehension (which is not at all the same thing as knowledge or training) + passion/energy/commitment. I like karate analogies. Knowing what the techniques are, and practicing their execution, does not make an effective martial artist. Understanding of the techniques (on every level, from body dynamics to a multiplicity of applications to the judgment necessary for appropriate use) is also required. But in addition, the prospective martial artist has to *care*--and care in the right way (both passionately and selflessly). Ultimately the energy, the magic, comes from within its wielder. The various disciplines of lore enable the energy to emerge effectively.

And those old songs: they're invocations, not accidental utterances empowered by age. In TIW, Lord Mhoram summons Caerroil Wildwood by singing the Forestal's song--and it works because it *is* the Forestal's song, accurately rendered from the Forestal's own being. The song has power because it is inherently and inescapably relevant, not because it's old or magical.

2) Yes, I suspect that Linden has a bad case of "hero worship" for Covenant. The passage of time allows us to idealize (or demonize) all kinds of things. And you're right: she's wrong about him (in the sense that her "hero worship" causes her to disregard his actual humanity--and to demean her own). Which he would be the first to tell her--if he ever had the chance. (He does the best he can in "Runes," but the poor blighter is *dead*, after all <grin>.)

(02/01/2006)

Jo:  I have completed the first book of a two book series. I have let family and friends read it and asked for honest opinions which on the whole have been positve. The problem is I cant seem to find a publisher because I dont have an agent and this is my first publication - and I cant seem to get an agent because I dont have a publisher interested in my work - can you offer any advice?
It's true that the current publishing climate militates against people in your position. Life is full of exceptions (and miracles), but in general neither editors nor agents can afford the time and effort to look at unsolicited manuscripts.

Of course, you can always go the "small press" route (although I have no idea how that works in practical terms). You can go the "vanity press" route, which has always carried a stigma. You can go the "e-publishing" or "published on demand" routes, but both of those methodologies are still in their infancy (so there are still a lot of problems to be solved). I can't advise you about any of those approaches.

What I *can* do is describe the generally-accepted paradigm for coping with your problem. With (many) variations, it goes like this:

First, you acquire a "credential" of some kind. You win a fiction contest. You earn an MFA in creative writing. You get a story published in a "literary" (i.e. non-paying) magazine. You survive a nationally-televised hostage situation. (OK, I don't recommend that one.) SOMEthing to make a professional reader think you know what you're doing.

Second--or first, if the other "first" is out of the question--you concentrate on writing short stories and submitting them to magazines. Magazine editors--especially in sf/f--read (and even accept) unsolicited, unagented manuscripts all the time. To your "credential," you attempt to add a "track record." In the old days, they used to say that you should sell short stories steadily for five years before you try to sell a novel. That seems rather extreme to me; but who knows?

Third, "track record" in hand (because the real purpose of the "credential" is to help you acquire a "track record"), you approach an agent with your novel. If you have a "track record," most agents *will* read your novel, for the obvious reason that they can believe they won't be wasting their time.

Of course, if you are Blessed By The Gods, your short stories will be published by an editor who raves about you to an editor who publishes novels. In that case, you'll be able to show your novel directly to an editor. (But, I hasten to add, you'll still want an agent. As soon as an editor says, "Yes, I want to publish you," you should take your novel to a good agent. The agent will almost certainly accept you as a client, since you've already broken the initial ice--and after that you'll *have* an agent, which solves an enormous number of problems down the road.)

Or, if you're blessed with extraordinary personal charm and persuasiveness, you can try to meet an actual editor (say, at an sf/f convention)--or an actual agent--and see if you can talk him/her into reading your manuscript. When this works, it works well because of the personal connection. But it doesn't work often.

And trying to gain the support of some other writer or writers never works. Most writers are notoriously idiosyncratic readers, and both editors and agents have good reason not to trust them.

Are you discouraged yet? <sigh>

(02/04/2006)

Br Gregory Dulmes:  Why is the book called "Runes of the Earth"? I don't recall even seeing the word "runes" in the text. ???
Primarily, it has to do with the messages/information/history/prophecy that Anele "reads" or "hears" in stone. But I'm also referring to the idea that (and I'm probably paraphrasing this badly) a person's fate is "graven in the heart of the rock."

(02/05/2006)

Ingebrigt:  First off; the usual praise. Thank you for the Gap sequence, Mordant and The Land, not to forget our friend Mike. Keep writing!

Second, a thing that has been bugging me the last 3 times i read the Gap; what does humanity buy from the Amnion? I mean; IMC sells ore, pirates sells just about everything, but what makes the credits flow both ways, what makes this a working economy?
In a word, bioengineering. The particular science/technolog/nature of the Amnion has enormous ramifications--and a huge array of applications which could be safely traded away (by "safely" I mean "without threatening the larger agenda of the Amnion"). I'm just speculating here; but I imagine that much of humankind's medical technology was derived or extrapolated from trade with the Amnion.

(02/05/2006)

An Obvious Geek:  You've answered tons of questions about hugely varying topics, satisfying hundreds of people.

.. but you haven't answered...

.. could Thomas Covenant beat up Gandalf?

I personally think Covenant could take Gandalf up until the part where Gandalf would make him feel horribly guilty about it in a haughty tone wielded with a cutting british accent.

Just trying to bring a smile to the face of an author who has brought many an emotion to my own face. In other words, thank you!
But seriously, folks....

There's an interesting issue hidden beneath the surface of this joke. It is a crucial aspect of LOTR that Gandalf does NOT "save the world". He guides and influences events in many ways; but he does not play a Covenant-like role in the story. (Shucks, he never even gets to throw down with the king of the Ringwraiths.) Neither does Aragorn, for that matter. Clearly it is important to Tolkien's intent that Middle Earth is saved by the smallest and most mundane (or at any rate least dramatic) of his characters: the Hobbits. People who consider Donaldson a Tolkien imitator should think more deeply about the differences between Gandalf and Covenant.

(02/05/2006)

Sean Casey:  Stephen

A couple of questions/points about slang in the Gap books. I assume 'kaze' is abbreviated from 'kamikaze' and is therefore pronounced 'kah-zee'. I don't know if you'd know this, but there's a British slang word 'karzy' (it has various spellings) that means toilet, and is apparently from the Italian for house. Would knowing something like that change your mind about creating a name or word?

Also, dare I ask what the noun/verb 'cornhole' means? Dare you tell me?

Thanks.
Yes, the term "kaze" is derived from "kamikaze," so your pronunciation is correct. And no, I didn't know about "karzy," but if I had known, the information would have made no difference to me. I do try to be clear; but I don't worry about every conceivable misapprehension: since I'm human, I'm always going to miss a few, no matter how hard I worry.

OK, "cornhole". Brace yourself. It's a verb that refers to anal intercourse, usually forcible (and involuntary on the part of the person being "cornholed").

(02/08/2006)

Michael from Santa Fe:  Besides yourself, one of my favorite authors is Stephen King (and I'm not a big fan of horror fiction in general). From what I've read in the GI you also seem to like him. A few years ago he was awarded the "National Book Foundation Medal for Distinguished Contribution to American Letters" - a very prestigious award from what I gather - the Academy Award of literature. Anyway, there was a big stink in "literary circles" about giving him the award. I didn't understand. It seemed that since he was popular and wrote in a genre that was not acceptable or beneath them that he should not be given the award. His acceptance speech was almost a defense of popular authors and popular fiction. I guess my question to you is: as someone who is an author, who deals with the publishing business, and has studied literature throughout your life, who are these people in "literary circles"? What are they looking for in "great literature"? Why was King such a threat to them?
Actually, we could spend hours on this. I'll try to be concise (or cryptic, whichever comes first).

I suspect that no human endeavor is free of prejudice. This includes what we might call the "literary establishment," people who have dedicated themselves to the study and analysis of fiction as a form of high art. So defined, the "literary establishment" is comprised of most academics in most English departments, as well as many high-minded editors, those of the New York Times Book Review and the New Yorker notable among them. The self-described "intelligensia." And the vast majority of those people make the automatic assumption that "popular = junk." In part because we live in such a profoundly anti-intellectual society, intellectuals are naturally inclined to view everyone else (a population which out-numbers intellectuals thousands to one) as dolts. It's a form of self-defense. So it follows logically that if the dolts like something, it must be bad. By definition. Even in the (very) open-minded college--and university--where I studied literature, the "popular = junk" sub-text was pervasive and unavoidable.

And that assumption is hard to argue with. Isn't it Sturgeon's Law that states, "90% of everything is junk"? From an analytical perspective, it's actually easier to defend the prejudice that "all popular literature is junk" than it is to prove that "90% of 'serious'--i.e. unpopular--literature is junk."

But there's more. We're talking about jobs here, careers, people's lives. Academics, and intellectuals of all hues, can't live on art alone: they still have to eat. Which means that they must (as much as humanly possible) establish "objective" criteria by which to demonstrate the worth of what they do. And those criteria inevitably (if not deliberately) revolve around matters of intellect rather than of emotion--for the simple and obvious reason that emotions are too subjective and individual to be useful as criteria for excellence or worth. So what happens? The "literary establishment" ignores the emotional substance of literature in order to concentrate on more objective issues, such as "technique." Emotion isn't susceptible to critical analysis: technique is.

(E.g. Shakespeare scholars don't try to analyse how a particular play makes an audience "feel". They don't even try to analyse how the characters in that play "feel". Instead they concentrate, say, on how Shakespeare's development of imagery and symbol enhances the meaning of his language. Of course, we all know that we wouldn't read--or watch--Shakespeare if his plays didn't have the power to make us "feel". And scholars know that as well as we do. They simply lack the intellectual tools to analyse emotion/passion in ways that are both useful and "objective".)

Well, from the POV of the "literary establishment," King has two huge strikes against him. He's popular. And (although for his own needs he has technique to burn) his primary appeal is to the emotions rather than to the intellect. He deals in terror and courage, which are impossibe to quantify, and certainly can't be analysed objectively. By its very nature, the "literary establishment" is only comfortable with work that appeals primarily to the intellect rather than to the emotions.

Unless you're dead. <sigh> Then it becomes OK for a writer to have been popular in his/her day. We can't be expected to "feel" the way people did "back then." Therefore the distance imposed by death and time allows us to ignore the emotional substance of literature and concentrate instead on its intellectual dimensions.

(02/08/2006)

Natha:  I also was raised as a missionary kid in another country....I often find myself searching for traces of thoughts, philosophy, or theology that might be tied to your MK past(much as my "present" is inevitably tied to my past) as I read your books. Do you feel that the experiences and lessons of those years in India seep through into the Thomas Covenant books? I have found them all to be absolutely wonderful, and have read them multiple times over. I just purchased "Runes" and have started reading it....it makes a really nice break from my dissertation writing!!! I wish I could make my dissertation as gripping as your books! If I could make readers come to know and love my bacteria the way you allow us to come to know and love your characters, I'd be an amazingly successful scientist!
I keep saying this: not consciously. Of COURSE what I do is shaped by who I am. And of COURSE who I am is shaped by my experiences (of all kinds). But I'm not *conscious* of letting my life, or my experiences, or even my beliefs "seep" into what I write. It seems to happen while I'm not looking.

(02/08/2006)

Usivius:  You have mentioned that you know exactly how a story will go before you start to write, but it is obvious that you can't possibly have all the little details down. In fact, during the process of writing, going form A to B to C, etc, in between all this, interesting developments likely happen that mold the story without diverting it from its path. Regarding the defeat of Eremis at the hands (or mind) or Teresa, at what point did you decide how he was going to meet his end? (Mordant's Need is my favourite --- and the end of Eremis has to be one of the best endings to a villian ever!)
You might be surprised at how many "little details" it's possible to plan from the beginning. Remember, as a general rule I design my stories from the back to the front. That method allows an enormous amount of preparation.

However.... It was "The Mirror of Her Dreams" that taught me the benefits of not trying to plan *too* much too early. During the writing of that book, I began to develop a more flexible approach to, well, let's call them "mid-stream" details of all kinds, large and small. So, in regard to Eremis' defeat: the general pattern of what happened to him is implicit in the nature of Terisa's relationship with mirrors. She only has that one power, so naturally she was going to use it against him. I knew that all along. But the specific details--e.g. the fact that he was frozen in a priapic state--evolved during the writing, as I grew to understand him more and more.

(02/11/2006)

Lou Sytsma:  Hi Steve - I hope this note finds you well.

I am curious as to how you proceed with a piece of work after the first draft is completed. Do you let it sit for several weeks to allow yourself some distance from it? It is my understanding some writers do this to make the second draft process easier.

Between the first and second draft do you have a group of trusted readers - say 4 or 5 people - to whom you give the draft to read, to get their feedback?

Once again, thanks for your time.

I do need a way to make the transition between the "creative" and "critical" functions of my brain. Distance (in time) helps with that transition, so in some ways the fact that it takes me so long to write a ^#$%@! first draft is a plus: by page 1000+ I have a *lot* of distance from page 1. <sigh> But feedback also helps me adjust from the perspective of the writer to the (very different) perspective of a reader. So I do have 2-3 people who are willing to read for me, who will do so in a timely fashion (after spending so much time writing, I hate waiting for feedback), and who can be trusted to not talk about what they've read with anyone except me <grin>.

Of course, I always need rest after I've finished a first draft. But I try to keep that as short as possible. As soon as I get some feedbag, er, feedback, I start rewriting.

(02/15/2006)

phil friedman:  Dear Steve: I'm a long-time fan of yours, and of what I consider good fantasy generally, starting with LOTR, A.T. Wright's "Islandia," Dune, etc. But I'm only a recent discoverer of your website, including the GI. So forgive me if I hit something long-since dead, or at least seriously wounded: Why the genre's constant background of essentially unmitigated evil (Lord Foul; Sauron; even (but not quite) Baron Harkonnen). I guess I concluded with Tolkien when I started reading fantasy (late 60s) that the reality--the grey--was within the Fellowship, and I could write off Sauron-Hitler-Stalin as a temporal product of Tolkien's times. For unless you're willing to say that George Bush and friends are Hitler, which even I won't, it doesn't take unmitigated evil to cause big problems, just the wrong shade of grey. What ya' think? Peace and Prosperity, and I anxiously await TFR.
Well, first I'd like to suggest that "unmotivated" might be a more useful term than "unmitigated". Baron Harkonnen has plenty of motivation: Iago, on the other hand, seems to revel in evil for its own sake (as does Master Eremis to some extent). In LOTR, Sauron appears "unmitigated," although I dimly recall that "The Silmarillion" supplies him with some motivation. And motivation--reasons; clear, comprehensible, and possibly even sympathetic goals--is what separates various "shades of grey" from "unmitigated" evil. In more realistic contexts, one might argue that "evil" is when "the ends justify the means"--and the "ends" are entirely self-serving.

But there's also another factor at work in fantasy (moreso than in science fiction). Almost by definition, fantasy (good or "serious" fantasy, anyway) tends toward the archetypal. Think Satan in "Paradise Lost," or Vivien and Modred in "The Idylls of the King." Indeed, much of the vital substance of fantasy arises from its exploration of the power of archetypes in human desires and actions. (I might go so far as to assert that those "shades of grey" are created by the struggle between conflicting archetypes within the individual human mind.) Again by definition, archetypes lie at the core of "what it means to be human," and fantasy exists (in daydreams as well as in literature) as a quest for that core. On that basis, when fantasy addresses "unmitigated" evil without trivializing it, fantasy is "doing its job". In contrast, when fantasy offers us "unmotivated" evil, the quest for the archetypal has failed.

Which is all as clear as mud, I suspect. My brain may have acquired a virus, possibly a trojan horse.

(02/15/2006)

Anonymous:  Are there places in the Chronicles with the names of:
Boundary Hills,
Central Hills Close,
Mithil Bridge,
Ramen Covert,
Llurallin River,
and Hidden Valley?
If these places are found in the books, where are they found? Are they on any of the book maps?
Thank you
"Central Hills Close" and "Hidden Valley" don't ring any bells at the moment. (Which doesn't mean much: my memory is cheese.) "Llurallin River" is on the map. Other locations I have deliberately left unspecified, in part to avoid visual clutter, and in part because the exact locations are unnecessary to the story.

(02/15/2006)

Perry Bell:  Hello Stephen,
Thank you again for taking the time to address your readers. We appreciate what you do for us.
I just wanted to ask a question referring back to The One Tree. When the Kemper wanted TC's ring, he was going to use his ocular to get Covenant to give him the ring. Wouldn't that be the same as ripping it off his hand? Using thurgy to gain his ends rather than a knife?
Also, I wanted to let you know that excerpts of the series are published online still at http://theland.antgear.com/.
Thank you again,
Perry Bell.
You're right. Using magic to coerce the ring from Covenant is no different, morally, than ripping it off his finger by force. But I refer you to previous discussions about the *degree* of power that can be wielded with white gold. If the Kemper gets Covenant to surrender his ring by magical manipulation, he (the Kemper) won't obtain power on the Planet Destroyer scale; but he might end up with the wild magic equivalent of a hydrogen bomb. A guy like Kasreyn would be happy to have that much force--until his greed (inevitably) moves up to the next level.

(02/16/2006)

William Byrd:  Mr. Donaldson,

I could blow encredible smoke over the way your works have affected me over the years (and into the present), but I won't. I've labored long over what, if any, intelligent question I could ask you in this format, and finally this one comes to mind. (And please forgive if it's been asked before. I haven't been able to keep up with all of the GI)

Do you feel that your characters are an expression of yourself or of external factors?

As a second, perhaps bonus question (for me anyway <g>), have you ever considered any similarities <sp?> between the Bloodguard and Vulcans?

Anyway, thanks for this opportunity to contact one of my favorite authors.

William

This is another question about "unconscious influences." As I keep saying, I do not consciously base characters (or anything else--with the obvious exceptions of information about leprosy, the martial arts, and karate tournaments) on anyone or anything "real." I certainly don't base them on any aspect of myself (although I do allow touches of my personal rhetorical style to bleed into Axbrewder's narrative voice). But OF COURSE everything that I write is an expression of myself on one level or another. And OF COURSE who I am (and therefore what I express) is profoundly influenced by external factors. So the short answer is, "Neither one. Both. Yes. No. And all of the above."

As for your second question: my conscious mind has never once, not even for a second, "considered any similarities between the Bloodguard and Vulcans". But unconsciously? I sure doubt it. I'm still trying to figure out what those "similarities" might *be*. I mean, aside from a general disinclination to express emotion directly....

(02/16/2006)

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Daniel Bauer:  Earlier someone asked about "lifting" stories. The question, and your response, made me think of the myriad of Star Wars novels written by many different authors. The forward to each novel thanks G. Lucas "for creating such a wonderful world, and letting the rest of us play in it."

While I don't know the specifics of the deals these writers have with Lucas, it makes me wonder if you'd allow other writers to play in your worlds - Mordant, the land, Gap, etc. The story plot, characters, etc. would be the writer's (writers'?), but the setting would be clearly your property.

I doubt that such stories would transend the original work enough to not be credited to you. Also, I have a hard time imagining stories in these settings that you haven't already told. However, the question remains: would you engage in such endeavors?
No, I would never give "commercial" permission (i.e. permission that involves money and commercial publication, as distinct from the writing that some people do for their personal enjoyment and the enjoyment of their friends) for other writers to "use" either my worlds or my characters. I've already told (or am in the process of telling) the story of those characters: any addition or adjustment from a perspective outside mine would undermine and possibly even falsify my work. And, unlike the example you cited, there is an organic relationship between my characters and their worlds. Those worlds exist so that I can write about those characters: the worlds make the stories possible. So any story that inserted new characters into my worlds (or that took even the least central of my characters in new directions) would have the effect of, well, polluting the vision and purpose which form the foundation of my work.

Plus, leaving aside issues that pertain to the integrity of my work, I believe (just my opinion) that it's *bad* (damaging, self-limiting, perhaps even self-demeaning) for writers to borrow or "lift" characters or stories from someone else. In my view, using someone else's imagination instead of your own hurts you (I'm using "you" in the generic sense here). Riding on the back of someone else's imagination dooms you to mediocrity. JUST MY OPINION.

(02/20/2006)

Perry Bell:  Hello again Stephen,
Thank you again for taking the time to address your readers.
I wanted to point out a small error <grin> regarding TC's eye color.
See, I keep *telling* you I'm not a visual person. <grin> Eye color? Covenant has eye color? Why wasn't I informed about this?
In TPTP, Elena's eyes are described as "they were grey, much like his own".
Ok, now to my question :)
On the watch, there was a discussion about Creator/Despiser/Covenant= same person.
If I understand this correctly, and the books take that direction, then wouldn't the Land and the Earth for that matter, be destroyed? I know this is hypothetical, but so far that is the direction I have been seeing as well.
Also, would Linden be able to be effective against Foul? She never traded herself for anyone, but when TC spoke to the creator at the end of the first series, he had made his choice and would have only been a tool, not free though.
Linden only spoke to TC at the end of the second series, but never to the creator again. Does that mean she is still protected by the necessity of freedom?

I hope this question makes sense
Thanks again for everything.
Perry Bell
Do I need to repeat that I'm not a visual person? <grin> Clearly some of my readers know more about eye-color than I do.

Now. I urge you not to interpret what follows as a "spoiler." I'm responding to a question about storytelling logic: I'm not (by which I mean *not*) commenting on the direction of "The Last Chronicles."

Sure, I see how Covenant = Despiser = Creator might imply the eventual and necessary destruction of the Land, the Earth, and even Time. But I could also argue that your equation contains an illogical assumption. The statement "Creator/Despiser/Covenant = same person" suggests "Creator/Despiser/Covenant = (only) same person" instead of, say, "Creator/Despiser/Covenant = same person (plus)". Putting it another way: your postulate seems to assume that a person can only be the sum of his/her parts. But what happens to your reasoning if you consider the idea that a person might be greater (or less) than the sum of his/her parts?

Also you appear to assume that because "Despiser = Covenant" is willing to take direct action while "Creator = Covenant" is not, "Despiser = Covenant" is therefore *stronger* than "Creator = Covenant". Or perhaps you assume that Covenant has somehow surrendered his freedom, thereby diminishing himself. That ain't necessarily so. The fact that Covenant is dead doesn't automatically mean that the outcome of the equation has already been determined. What do you suppose that Linden is *for* in "The Second Chronicles"? She adds to and complicates the equation exponentially.

Meanwhile, there seems to be considerable confusion about what "the necessity of freedom" means. Choices freely made do not deprive anyone of freedom: those choices are the very definition of freedom. So when Covenant, in effect, picks the Creator's "side" instead of Lord Foul's, he hasn't surrendered any aspect of his necessary freedom. In fact, he has affirmed his freedom by acting on his own choices. In contrast, filling Covenant's veins with venom in an attempt to tamper with or coerce his choices is a doomed strategem because it violates "the necessity of freedom". (Unless, of course, Covenant breaks down under the pressure--unless he shows himself to be less than the sum of his parts--by surrendering responsibility for his choices and actions, his freedom.)

(02/20/2006)

Vincent Culp:  Because these are your books, and you are the creator behind them, you of course have the ultimate perspective of them and I wouldn't dare argue my point of veiw of them against your's. I do however find myself veiwing the actions of your protagonist from a different angle entirely than that which you seem to portray, at least in your interveiws. I think Covenant himself knows that the land is not real. I believe that as he has grown attached to the fantasy which is the land...eg a place where he is at first looked upon as a prophet, and then later on a hero, and even a savior...he's letting himself lose touch with reality. Each time he returns to the land it is for a longer period of time, to the point where he is not only never going to leave the land, but is an essential part of it. This all seems to me like a form of megalomania, scitzophrenia, and paranoia. The trauma he has faced in life has driven him from the real world into a fantasy world of his own creation, where he has gone from periah, to messiah, yet he still behaves for the most part like a spoiled child. 'Why me?' he used to say, merely in the hopes that someone would tell him that he was chosen because he is special, that he deserves to be treated with awe and reverance, not for anything he has done, but simply for who he is. To me it is everything else that is irrelevant, because it is all a delusion he has fostered in order to make himself feel better about himself. I love it, I eagerly await the chance to read more of this magnificent world of his mind.......but in the end Thomas Covenant is a drooling psychopath who's very acceptance of the land is a betrayal of his own sanity. (just my veiw) :)
You raise an interesting point. My response is: show me where it says that in the text. Show me where the text says--or even hints--that "Covenant is a drooling psychopath whose very aceptance of the Land is a betrayal of his own sanity." In the meantime, I'll counter that after four visits to the Land in the first trilogy, Covenant functions both effectively and constructively in the "real world" for ten years. "Drooling psychopaths" don't usually do things like that.

I'm reminded of a woman who once told me--strenuously--that "Mordant's Need" is a sexist nightmare in which women are destroyed for the glory of male egos. My response there was the same: show me where it says that in the text. She couldn't, of course. Her interpretation was based on a set of psychological beliefs which required her to view the text as if it had been written in a code which only she could decipher; as if the text did not--and *could* not--mean what it said.

Well, when the interpretation of a text necessitates ignoring the content of that text, we're faced with an insurmountable breakdown of communication.

(02/20/2006)

Arnold Blatz:  Why isn't George Bush as eloquent a speaker as Lord Foul? I mean, obviously Bush has been taking lessons from the old Gray Slayer but I seriously feel something is lacking. As the (ahem) creator of Lord Foul perhaps you have an answer.
This isn't a forum for political discussion. But I think that the answer to your question is obvious. Bush needs a better speechwriter--and he didn't ask me. <grin> Like *that* was ever going to happen.

(02/22/2006)

Michael from Santa Fe:  There has been a lot of discussion in the GI about Covenant movies and of course the books, but to your knowledge has any of your work ever been performed on the stage?
Not to my knowledge, no. And I can see why. How could the results be anything other than disappointing--not to mention bizarre?

Although now that I think about it, "The Conqueror Worm" might work....

(02/22/2006)

Martin Bennett:  I have just finished reading 'Something Wicked This Way Comes', very surprised to note the similarities between that novel and the climax of the First Chronicles. Was this novel one of your inspirations when writing 'White Gold Wielder' (ignoring the subconscious inspiration that we receive from any text that we have read)? The Illustrated Man and his cronies were defeated by starving them of the pain that we feel, by laughing in evil's face as it were. Also, there is the theme of 'de-aging' - several key players became younger on the carousel, and LF regressed to babyhood and beyond. Thirdly, the battlegrounds of both novels seem firmly set in the intellectual arena (one of the greatest reasons that I have for admiring Thomas Covenant).
An interesting question. There's only one problem: I didn't read "Something Wicked This Way Comes" until long after I'd written the first "Covenant" trilogy. Of course, Bradbury's book was published years earlier--so obviously he must have been imitating a novel that he knew I would write some day. <grin>

(02/22/2006)

Shawn Speakman:  Hi Stephen,

A lot of Covenant resides within me - and many of us for that matter. I have you to thank for giving me the chance to fully understand and grasp the good and bad parts of myself through Covenant and recognize my own ability for despite and capacity to care and love. Through analysis, I am a stronger person for having read your work.

To an easy questeion: Has there been any interest to produce "The First and Second Chronicles of Thomas Covenant" in a brand new, hardcover edition/set? Would you allow such books to become a reality if a publisher wanted to do it? I'd love to have a nice set of hardcovers sitting on my desk with a beautiful uniformity to them.

Best Wishes, Shawn
Well, it isn't up to me: those rights are held by DEL REY/Ballantine. But naturally I would have no objection.

Covenants 1-6 *are* available in omnibus hardcovers from the Science Fiction Book Club. And Hill House has talked about doing limited collector's editions. But since Hill House is already 15 months late with "The Runes of the Earth," I'm not counting on anything there.

(02/22/2006)

Jeff:  Mr. Donaldson,

As a freshman in college a lifetime ago, someone introduced me to your writing and I've been hooked ever since. I began reading Terry Brooks about the same time. You both started at roughly the same time and both worked with the same publisher and editor. Was there ever any interaction between the two of you during that time? I wouldn't want to offend either of you...but from this loyal reader's perspective please know I'd rather wait the extra time between books and know I was getting your best...probably best to stop there. I've enjoyed reading through the gradual interview and appreciate the time you continue investing in it. Many thanks!
As it happens, I've had the pleasure of Terry's acquaintance. In fact, we were introduced by Lester and Judy-Lynn del Rey. And he did me a huge--if indirect--service with "The Sword of Shannara." The astonishing success of that book opened doors for a number of other writers, yrs trly included. But we haven't laid eyes on each other in many years.

(02/22/2006)

Allen:  Mr. Donaldson

I'm not sure whether or not you've quite answered this question yet but - when you say you have no new ideas for works after the Last Chronicles of Thomas Covenant does that include The Man Who series?

I sense a larger purpose in the Man Who books but its unclear what that is to me, right now. What would you say its larger purpose is - besides bringing dignity back to noir?

Thank you for your consideration,

Allen
You're quite right: there *is* a "larger purpose" behind TMW books. I can't seem to help myself. Everything turns into an epic eventually.

As for the next installment in the series (because at least one more installment is obviously necessary): I know where the story goes, but at the moment I have absolutely no idea how to get there. If that makes any sense. But I'm not worried about Brew/Ginny right now. I have too many other characters on my mind.

(02/22/2006)

Brent Morgan:  I am an avid fan who looks foreward to each book published in each series with bated-breath. Why is it going to take until 2013 for the last chronicles of Thomas Covenant to be completed?
I understand marketing, and how hard-back gets published then 1-year later, soft-cover. Then approximately 6mo to 1 more year next book in series and so on. But PLEASE 2007 before 2nd book in this series and expected publication date of the last book in this series is 2013?
Does Steve need time to write the books? What's up? No insult intended-just disappointed that fans can't read story sooner.
I've already discussed this at length in the Gradual Interview. I'm not going to repeat everything here. The short answer? I simply can't write any faster. Not without surrendering to a terminal disappointment in my own shortcomings.

(02/22/2006)

Ian:  Really quick question on pronunciation. How do you pronounce Coercri? I see it as "care-cry" bur am not completely sure... thank you for your time. :)
As far as I'm concerned, you can pronounce things any way that suits you. But personally, I pronounce it COOR-cree. I was thinking of the French word for "heart" (coeur [sp?]) and added "cry," but I made some mental adjustments while I thought about it.

(02/27/2006)

Matt Hope:  Hi Stephen.

First a backhanded compliment for the unintentional tiredness you've caused me because I was up till three in the morning avidly reading one of your books. I now refer to the visage of myself unshaven and red eyed as the "Donaldson Face".

Anyway, in much of your work you seem to explore the theme of nature vs disorder/corruption. To what extent do you think your work has been influenced by a concern by the way we treat our own environment?

In particular the Land, (at least before Foul gets through with it) seems to represent an idyllic world where people live in balance with natural forces. Is this the kind of world you'd like to see people moving towards?

P.S. Sorry if that all sounds a bit eco-hippyish.
File this under "unconscious influences." I'm a closet eco-hippy myself--although I have no particular desire to "get back to nature." <grin> Humankind's rape of the planet strikes me as inherently self-destructive. But, as I keep saying, I don't write to preach. I'm a storyteller, not an advocate for my own convictions (except as they pertain to storytelling). When I created the Land, I wasn't trying to imagine "an idyllic world": I was trying to create a place that could stand as the opposite of leprosy--and of the way in which lepers have been treated historically.

(02/27/2006)

Lindsay Addison:  Hi Steve,
You've been thanked/praised/blamed many times over for your written work, so assuming that is an understood, I'd like to thank you for your humor and tolerance in responding to questions. I doubt I'm the only one, but I follow the GI as much for a good laugh as anything else.

And so, in a spirit of some facetiousness, but with sincere puzzlement, I would like to ask what the heck did you mean by the word "latias"? I have looked in all concievable sources and have come up empty. This is quite a feat in and of itself, since I've found entries even for roynish (thanks, OED).

For reference, here's the quotation in which it appeared.

"It appeared to be a dwelling of some kind, a tall, open-sided construct planted in the grass. Bare poles at the corners, and at intervals along the sides, supported a latticed ceiling of smaller wooden shafts like LATIAS; and sod had been placed over the lattice to form a roof of deep grass."
(RotE 256, U.S. hardcover)

Help! <G>
Well, OBviously you didn't consult your Spanish-English dictionary. <grin> Or maybe I made that part up. The text describes "latias" pretty well. A "latia" is a long stick, typically about as thick as a wrist, and as straight as possible, used to support a roof of some kind. Of course, they don't necessarily form a lattice. Usually they're laid side-by-side to form a platform on which roofing materials (sod, leaves, tar-paper, whatever) can be placed. Latias are not uncommon in the US Southwest, even in up-scale homes (they aren't really practical for commercial structures).

(02/27/2006)

Michael from Santa Fe:  Have you seen "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" and what did you think of it?
Well, since you asked.... (And remember that this is JUST MY OPINION.) The film exacerbates all the flaws of the book. By making the text literal, the film prevents the imaginations of the audience/readers from supplying what Lewis left out: a quality which I might describe as a "sense of scale," physical, emotional, even moral. The film makes Narnia look tiny; Aslan doesn't seem even a little bit numinous; any literal "Father Christmas" is a joke; and the "winter wonderland" conveys absolutely no sense of evil. Of course, I could make all of these same statements about the book. In that sense, the film is genuinely faithful to the book. But Lewis gives his readers' imaginations room to work for him instead of against him. The film thwarts that essential process. JMO!

(02/27/2006)

Jim:  Thank you so much for your books. I have been a fan of your work since I read the First Chronicles in 1979. My question has to do with point of view and a particular scene in Runes. You stated that you “write everything in the sequence in which [the character] experiences it.” Also, you mention that you “try to experience the story, both sequentially and emotionally, as if I were indeed inside the head(s) of my protagonist(s) or POV character(s).” To me, one of the most powerful and emotional scenes in Runes is where Linden and company are rescued the first time by the Ramen. Clearly she has no clue who these people are. Yet your description of how they move and fight just as clearly identifies them as Ramen to any reader of the First Chronicles. I have read Runes twice and cried at this scene both times. I appreciate that you let the reader slowly realize what was happening rather than have the Ramen come up and say “We are Ramen and we are here to save you.” I experienced Linden’s emotions at being rescued by some unknown force, but also stronger emotions at the return of a beloved people that I thought were lost forever. Knowing that this book must be written from Linden’s POV, did you realize the effect this scene would have on your readers? Thank you again for taking the time to participate in this forum.
Naturally I hope that what I write will touch my readers in important ways. And I work very hard at juggling a number of different priorities simultaneously: e.g. preparing "surprises" that will affect both devoted "Covenant" fans and new readers without violating the integrity of my chosen POV. But I can't honestly say that I'm able to predict how these things will work out in practice. One of my problems is that I put a great deal of effort into *preparing* my surprises; so much effort, in fact, that I always suspect myself of *telegraphing* what I have mind. The technical challenges are quite complex. The "jump out of the closet without forewarning" surprise is dead easy, dirt cheap--especially with a restricted narrative POV--and I consider it cheating. By my standards, the ideal surprise is both genuinely unexpected and (in retrospect) entirely inevitable. Which is only possible when the ground (as it were) has been effectively prepared. I don't know how often I achieve that ideal, but I sure do try.

(02/27/2006)

Rex:  Steven,

First the silly question. Is Kevin's Watch a Timex? A Rolex?

Now the real question. I hope I'm paraphrasing you correctly when I remember you saying that since you are no longer the person you were, your writing will be different now than it was then. For one thing, you have additional writing under your belt (that is, if you keep your manuscripts in your pants :-)), and you have more experiences, more reflection, more living done that you can bring to bear on your current work. So, are you conciously aware of any thoughts or experiences you've had after the Second Chronicles that are influencing the Final Chronicles?
No, seriously, it's a TAG Heuer. Didn't I make that obvious?

An enormous amount of what I write is unconsciously rather than consciously motivated--which I consider a Good Thing. (*How* I write it, on the other hand, is very consciously motivated.) The only "thoughts or experiences" I've had "after the Second Chronicles that are influencing the [Last] Chronicles" *consciously* are the first six "Covenant" books themselves. Re-reading those books in preparation for "The Last Chronicles" affected what I'm doing now in all kinds of ways. I'll only mention one: the things that I wish I could "fix" in the first six books (primarily structural and what I'll call "psychological" problems) multiplied my determination not to make those same mistakes again.

Unconsciously, of course, everything in my personal life (e.g. writing the GAP books; studying karate; getting older) *must* be affecting "The Last Chronicles." But I'm not aware of it--and I probably won't be until after this project is done.

(02/27/2006)

Andrew:  I have a question and a comment.

My question is: Have you ever been approached to co-author a novel with another fantasy/SF writer? (My search in the GI did not uncover a response to this).

My comment is that as an adult, I find most contemptorary fantasy difficult to read (too much of it is cartoonish or poorly written), but I continue to have a soft spot for your work. The reason is that as a reader you know where the story is going, and (from past experience) the ride will be a good one, intellectually and otherwise. As I grow older (I discovered your work some 20 years ago) I appreciate that even more. Thanks.
Yes, a fine writer named Midori Snyder once suggested that she and I write a fantasy/martial arts novel together. I like her, I like her work, I liked her idea, and I wanted to do it. But it just didn't come to life for me. Which was predictable, I suppose. Only once in my life have I ever gotten a story idea from a person (instead of "out of the blue"); and in that case I twisted the idea so dramatically that the person who gave it to me disavowed it. (The story was "Animal Lover," and the person who really should have gotten credit was Max Sandler.) I guess I'm dependent on the sensation that my story ideas come to me from the universe (i.e. from my unconscious) rather than from someone who has opinions about what should be done with them.

(02/27/2006)

Anonymous:  Hello. A friend has referred me to a book by Stephen Donaldson which is divided into three sections. Each section is a re-telling of the story from a different character's perspective. As you progress, the characters that you thought were the heros turn out to be the villians and vice versa (or something to this effect). My friend could not remember the name of the book and all of my searching is turning up empty. My question is "What is the title of this science fiction novel?" Thanks.
Sure sounds like "The Real Story," the first book in my 5-volume sf saga collectively called the GAP books (or cycle, or sequence, depending on my mood).

(02/27/2006)

Alistair:  Dear Steve,

Please forgive this intrusion into your valuable time. I have just finished The Runes of the Earth and eagerly await the publication of Fatal Revenant, in order that I can once again take up temporary residence in the Land. I would ask when it is due to be published, but that would be beside the point (I shall just have to wait until I can get my hands on it)

I have read many of your books, but by no means all of them, although one day I hope to have done so. The first books I came across of yours were the Second Chronicles, and I have eagerly read every book I have encountered bearing your name. I would, if you don’t mind, like to ask what it is that first led you to write and what it is that now drives you to continue writing.

I know I asked the question before finding out whether you minded, but that is I feel the best way to elicit an answer.

Thank you in advance
In some ways, your question is unanswerable. (Why are we here? What's the meaning of life? Why does anyone do what they do?) In others, I've spent some time on it earlier in this interview. The short answer? This is the work I was born--and raised--to do. I was born verbal, dependent on language (don't ask me why: *I* didn't choose my genetic makeup); and my childhood taught me that storytelling is perhaps my most essential survival skill. So here I am, doing the only work in the world that suits who I am.

(02/28/2006)

Ian L. Morgan:  A question that has been burning in me since I started reading the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant. Are you a Christian? I ask that because the allegory involved with Covenant's crimes against Lena, his Unbelief and ultimately his sacrifice for the Land are very reminiscent of other Christian Allegory/Fantasy novels(Lord of the Rings, The Narnia books) I know this may seem offensive so I apologize in advance and thank you for your time.
As I've said before on occasion, I don't consider my personal convictions (religious, political, ecological, whatever) relevant to the content of my work--or to this public forum. In practice, the content of any communicative work arises from an interaction or synergy between the work and its audience. And (speaking now exclusively of books) in this interaction or synergy the author is conspicuously absent. Only the text is relevant to the reader. In other words, what you see is what you get. If you see Christian allegory in "The Chronicles," that's what you get. If, on the other hand, you see an existentialist diatribe against any attempt to impose external meaning on human actions--or perhaps against any attempt to alter the relationship between human actions and their consequences--that's also what you get.

Under the circumstances, it's remarkable that audiences do often achieve a degree of consensus. Both Lewis and Tolkien claimed that their works (Narnia and LOTR) were not allegorical. At a guess, I would say that 90% of readers dismiss Lewis' assertion and accept Tolkien's.

Of course, we could discuss whether or not the text of "The Chronicles" qualifies as allegory. But first we would have to define allegory. By any definition that I'm familiar with, I dislike allegory in general, and I strive against it in my own work.

(02/28/2006)

John Dean:  My neighbor loaned me Lord Foul's Bane when I was in middle school, and that was my start to a book a day reading habit for decades. I've read the first two chronicles several dozen times - they are that good, and I enjoy them that much, even after all this time. So thank you for instilling in me such a love of reading.
I had not known the last chronicles were coming until stumbling across the book - and of course everything else I was reading is now on hold so I can begin the new book. I haven't read it yet, so my question won't pertain to any details of the book, but rather your timeframe.

You must have a time machine hiding somewhere to have published the first two chronicles in such a relatively short period of time. I think most of us are now accustomed to waiting three to four years for a book from our favorite authors. After having machinegunned the first two chronicles, do you have any suggestions to help us deal with the delay between installments this time around? Granted, it will seem quite short compared to the time between WGW and Runes, but after having seen what you can do in such a short period of time, the wait is going to be quite painful.

But thank you for returning to The Land. I had many questions in my mind after reading WGW that I had never planned on being able to learn answers to. I'm hoping, after seeing some of your posts in here, that I will find the resolution to some of the story arcs I had wondered about.
"Machinegunned the first two chronicles"? Oh, my aching sacro-iliac. Is that what you call ten years of my life? Sure, the fact that 6 books were published between 1977 and 1983 conveys the impression that I worked fast when I was young. But I'll mention that I had all three volumes of the first trilogy written before I found a publisher, and I began working on them in 1972. That's 11 years for 6 books (well, 7, since we should probably count "The Man Who Killed His Brother"). It sure didn't feel like "machinegunning" to me.

Still, it's true that I'm a lot slower now. Age and infirmity combine badly with higher expectations.

So how do any of us cope with the delay? Well, there are a fair number of good books out there, and some of them are going begging. I'll just mention (again) Tim Powers, Patricia McKillip, Steven Erikson, Melanie Rawn, Peter Straub, Sean Russell. I hear some interesting word-of-mouth about David Keck, so I'm looking forward to giving him a try. And don't even get me *started* on non-fantasy writers....

(02/28/2006)